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number two, the sex slave trade passing through san francisco. and obviously, number three, my number one project, the controversial death of a dead gay man who used to work at san francisco general in 1999, and so far nobody, and i mean nobody, is willing to even discuss his death. i guess when you're gay and you have no voice, then you're expendable. it's kind of interesting that the city of san francisco has been bypassed by the state of washington in regards to gay and related activities. so maybe that's a sign to san francisco that maybe the curse of joe -- is beginning to take its toll. the last thing i would like to say is that there was an article in the west portal monthly in the front page and there were two things that weren't mentioned. the first one was that room 200 was very well represented. that wasn't mentioned. and in my opinion, the other thing that wasn't mentioned was laguna honda hospital. thank you. >> mr. president, supervisors, my name's otto duffy, north of market activist. i just saw the film lincoln and i'm just struck
number two, the sex slave trade passing through san francisco. and obviously, number three, my number one project, the controversial death of a dead gay man who used to work at san francisco general in 1999, and so far nobody, and i mean nobody, is willing to even discuss his death. i guess when you're gay and you have no voice, then you're expendable. it's kind of interesting that the city of san francisco has been bypassed by the state of washington in regards to gay and related activities....
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usc san francisco, i spent nine years as an attending surgeon, i'm attending surgeon at st. francis hospital where i've been on staff for 28 years covering the emergency room and had the honor of taking care of hundreds if not thousands of citizens, adults and children alike, killed and maimed and severely impaired by drunk drivers. i don't want to have to go home and have the honor and pleasure instead of hearing kids play soccer hear screams of kids getting run over by drunk drivers. i request you think about the proposed restaurant that's being put in there. it's only benefiting one person and that's the developer. thank you. >> president chiu: thank you. next speaker. >> good evening, board of supervisors. let me start off by saying that was not a disrespect to you all, in terms of making a comment on the last session. as i read it within the agenda -- >> president chiu: excuse me, you've already spoken in public comment. we started general public comment before this session. you did speak in that session. >> no i haven't. >> president chiu: my apologies. >> anyway, i ap
usc san francisco, i spent nine years as an attending surgeon, i'm attending surgeon at st. francis hospital where i've been on staff for 28 years covering the emergency room and had the honor of taking care of hundreds if not thousands of citizens, adults and children alike, killed and maimed and severely impaired by drunk drivers. i don't want to have to go home and have the honor and pleasure instead of hearing kids play soccer hear screams of kids getting run over by drunk drivers. i...
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but when you look at san francisco and how the city interacts and the infrastructure these are key areas for both a residential, commercial, and also distribution of thoroughfares through the city so major changes in how it's structured could have a dramatic and material impact on how people get to work and how the city flows. so i think it is important -- as of now, no one really has a thorough understanding of what the impact would be because practically no studies have been done. so before we really make major changes, it is important to go through the steps. and don't put ourselves in a position where we make a -- harmful impact by eliminating some of the major thoroughfares through the city. >> good evening. my name is -- 7:30 pm last night divisadero and oak, bicyclist running a red light, three pedestrians entering the crosswalk, look of shock in their eyes. to avoid hitting anything or anybody, the bicyclist swerved and turned into oncoming traffic. fortunately no one was injured. fortunately nobody was hurt. these types of incidents are going on all the time in our neighborhood.
but when you look at san francisco and how the city interacts and the infrastructure these are key areas for both a residential, commercial, and also distribution of thoroughfares through the city so major changes in how it's structured could have a dramatic and material impact on how people get to work and how the city flows. so i think it is important -- as of now, no one really has a thorough understanding of what the impact would be because practically no studies have been done. so before...
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i'm elizabeth stampe, executive director of walk san francisco. and i'm here to encourage you to reject this appeal and affirm the planning department's decision to get these improvements happening as soon as possible on fell and oak, to calm traffic, and improve safety. these include 12 new bulbouts as you've heard, a shortened crossing district distance and increased visibility, and add new street greening. the traffic signals will be adjusted for lower speeds, safer speeds. these are important fixes to make some of the highest speed streets in our city closest to our most beloved park more safe for people walking. it clearly -- this project clearly falls into a categorical exemption from a full environmental review. it is clearly minor. and a reversal of the exemption would really set a bad precedent, forcing full reviews on traffic calming projects, even small scale fixes like bulbouts as well as other sustainable design improvements. a reversal would delay not only these current improvements that are much-needed as the previous speaker said o
i'm elizabeth stampe, executive director of walk san francisco. and i'm here to encourage you to reject this appeal and affirm the planning department's decision to get these improvements happening as soon as possible on fell and oak, to calm traffic, and improve safety. these include 12 new bulbouts as you've heard, a shortened crossing district distance and increased visibility, and add new street greening. the traffic signals will be adjusted for lower speeds, safer speeds. these are...
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francisco, phoenix and san francisco are two different city, but the idea for innovation and building in the ticket, with a ticket transit incentive is tremendous. and it actually makes people feel the transit is part of the whole experience of going to the game. it actually minimizes the cost of the psychological barrier.
francisco, phoenix and san francisco are two different city, but the idea for innovation and building in the ticket, with a ticket transit incentive is tremendous. and it actually makes people feel the transit is part of the whole experience of going to the game. it actually minimizes the cost of the psychological barrier.
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we don't lose the people that make san francisco so special. we keep everybody here and that allow us to recover our economy, and everything because it's so interdependent. >> so that is a difficult goal but i think we can achieve it over the long time so thank you very much for hosting us and hosting this great exhibit, and thank you very much for joining >> >> >> frantic shoppers around you may be in need of a break from the festivities and have no fear i will count down the places that will add fun to the madness. if you're in good of a good laugh stop by for free comedy night and food and drink speciallies. come laugh the night away at 8:00 p.m. sharp. after that get your skate grove on in your finest black and white duds. join the godfather of skate and his party crew this thursday at the skate night. skate to the funk and rolear disco and say the words "i love skating" and get a discount at the door. maybe the star party is your cup of tea and socialize and get tips about the night sky and from san francisco's picturesque land's end and t
we don't lose the people that make san francisco so special. we keep everybody here and that allow us to recover our economy, and everything because it's so interdependent. >> so that is a difficult goal but i think we can achieve it over the long time so thank you very much for hosting us and hosting this great exhibit, and thank you very much for joining >> >> >> frantic shoppers around you may be in need of a break from the festivities and have no fear i will count...
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thank you san francisco. >> secretary lahood. thank you very much for that wonderful news. >> [inaudible] >> it's a really truly a great day for san francisco. great cities need great public transportation systems, and you know what? you know what makes our city great with all these leaders? they listen. they listen to our communities. they understand -- because for years our communities pleaded we need better transportation systems what makes our leaders so great they listen and they act. that is so wonderful. that is what standard that we have for all of our public officials. secretary lahood if you could thank president obama from all of us. yes. [applause] because i know today we're going to spend a lot of precious moments thanking leader pelosi and congress women fine 79 and boxer and. >> >> we're going to thank all of our community members and from china town and all of them have worked very hard. these are not easy projects. they're very complicated and people had to work at the highest levels to make sure that every aspec
thank you san francisco. >> secretary lahood. thank you very much for that wonderful news. >> [inaudible] >> it's a really truly a great day for san francisco. great cities need great public transportation systems, and you know what? you know what makes our city great with all these leaders? they listen. they listen to our communities. they understand -- because for years our communities pleaded we need better transportation systems what makes our leaders so great they listen...
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he was the first african american to run for mayor in san francisco in 1963, he was a longshore man, a golden globes boxer and a staunch community activist and his legacy continues to live on and you see it in his children and his grandchildren. sam jordan's bar has served as an important gathering place for the city's working class and the african american community. i believe land marking this place is long overdue. we have planning staff here to provide the committee with an overview of this legislation and landmarking request and with that i'd like to invite you to come up and make a presentation. thank you. >> i did have an image for the overhead. >> it takes a second. overhead, please. >> can we zoom out a little bit? >> i'm not sure if you need to do it from the machine there or not. i think you should just continue. >> good afternoon, supervisors, mary brown, planning department staff to present the proposed designation for sam jordan's bar as an individual poland lark under article 10 of the planning code. at the request of the land owner the project was added to the land ma
he was the first african american to run for mayor in san francisco in 1963, he was a longshore man, a golden globes boxer and a staunch community activist and his legacy continues to live on and you see it in his children and his grandchildren. sam jordan's bar has served as an important gathering place for the city's working class and the african american community. i believe land marking this place is long overdue. we have planning staff here to provide the committee with an overview of this...
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san francisco is extraordinary city with huge students and hosting responsibilities and an international city with a lot of visitors and with mta what is going on each week and do we have overlap with the bluegrass or fleet week or with the giants like we did. how do we marshal the officers and the parking transit? we can do it and it takes heavy lifting and resources and we learned how to make it more sustainable and to get that level up. having the streetcars and the buses ready in a good state of repair so there are not break downs requiring lead time in the events and look at the procurement cycles and get ahead and have a milestone of this cycle buying this many extra vehicles. we are looking at this now and the workshops -- we had one with the community, the one in december are that opportunity to make sure we're on the right track with their experience. a woman today talked about the experience of crowded trains for the games and i found that too and we have the opportunity for more frequency and reliability and how to make that work and build it into the finance mechanism. mta is
san francisco is extraordinary city with huge students and hosting responsibilities and an international city with a lot of visitors and with mta what is going on each week and do we have overlap with the bluegrass or fleet week or with the giants like we did. how do we marshal the officers and the parking transit? we can do it and it takes heavy lifting and resources and we learned how to make it more sustainable and to get that level up. having the streetcars and the buses ready in a good...
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. >> i have competed in the casting ponds in golden gate park in san francisco. i have been to japan and norway for fly casting competition. i spend my weekends here at the club and at the casting pond. it's a great place to learn and have fun. on a season day like this, it was the perfect spot to be. i find fly casting very relaxing and also at the same time very challenging sport. takes me out into the nature. almost like drawing art in the air. and then i can make these beautiful loops out there. >> even though people from across the globe come here to compete, it's still a place where locals in the know relax and enjoy some rely unique scenery. until next time, get out and play! z. >> the meeting will come to order. this is the monday, december 10, 2012 meeting of the land development committee of the san francisco board of supervisors. it's our last meeting of the year. my name is eric mar, chairman of the committee, our clerk is miss alisa miller. miss miller, are there announcements for us? >> please make sure to silence all cell phones and electronic devi
. >> i have competed in the casting ponds in golden gate park in san francisco. i have been to japan and norway for fly casting competition. i spend my weekends here at the club and at the casting pond. it's a great place to learn and have fun. on a season day like this, it was the perfect spot to be. i find fly casting very relaxing and also at the same time very challenging sport. takes me out into the nature. almost like drawing art in the air. and then i can make these beautiful loops...
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i have been a tour guide in san francisco for the last 15 years. i am a member of the san francisco tour guide guild, but i'm not speaking on their behalf because we are all independent. however, i had done walking tours in north beach, so, i'm familiar with that and they've been my most successful people. love the area. as a matter of fact, [speaker not understood] has been a lovely stop there. but i haven't gone through that neighborhood, but i can imagine what she's going through. whenever you open a magazine and the san francisco travel is promoting the city, they're promoting all our neighborhoods. i also conduct tours for folks in motor coach to get from one side of the city to the other. please keep in mind that columbus avenue is a major artery. when i take us around the city and i need to move around in three hours so they can go on to something else, or four, that i simply cannot afford to eliminate all of north beach and hie because my only route is columbus avenue, unless i go by van ness. and particularly with the america's cup coming
i have been a tour guide in san francisco for the last 15 years. i am a member of the san francisco tour guide guild, but i'm not speaking on their behalf because we are all independent. however, i had done walking tours in north beach, so, i'm familiar with that and they've been my most successful people. love the area. as a matter of fact, [speaker not understood] has been a lovely stop there. but i haven't gone through that neighborhood, but i can imagine what she's going through. whenever...
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so right at freezing. 40 in san rafael. more moderate in san francisco at 45 and 38 in san jose. so compared to yesterday, 9 degrees cooler. at this time in fairfield and 4 degrees cooler in san rafael. temperatures will be on the cool side once again. but it will be clear and cold and dry for the mornings. new year's eve is actually looking dry and cool. a bright start for new year's day with even more sunshine. we will look at the satellite radar. we have this area of high pressure. this low has moved south and this will bring us sunny weather. temperatures still on the cool side with a cooler air mass over us. we will talk about highs today around the state if you are traveling do look out for a winter weather advisory in the western area of nevada through reno. that's in effect until about 10:00 this morning. so some snow showers there. one to three inches and possibly four in the higher elevations. partly cloudy condition necessary tahoe. and as you head south a chance of rain in las vegas at 48 degrees. also here for us we will warm up to the low 50s. look for more sunshine
so right at freezing. 40 in san rafael. more moderate in san francisco at 45 and 38 in san jose. so compared to yesterday, 9 degrees cooler. at this time in fairfield and 4 degrees cooler in san rafael. temperatures will be on the cool side once again. but it will be clear and cold and dry for the mornings. new year's eve is actually looking dry and cool. a bright start for new year's day with even more sunshine. we will look at the satellite radar. we have this area of high pressure. this low...
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this is the monday, december 10, 2012 meeting of the land development committee of the san francisco board of supervisors. it's our last meeting of the year. my name is eric mar, chairman of the committee, our clerk is miss alisa miller. miss miller, are there announcements for us? >> please make sure to silence all cell phones and electronic devices. items acted upon today will appear on the january 15th board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. >> thank you, i'd like to thank sfgtv which televises us each meeting. i'd like to say we have 7 items on the agenda today. madam clerk, please call item 1. >> item 1 is a resolution granting a street encroachment at 54 peralta avenue for construction of a driveway ramp. >> sponsor is david chiu and from dpw we have david qwan >> my name is eleanor tapk and i am with the department of public works. our office received a major encroachment request from sia consulting on october 26, 2011. the request is to remove and reconstruction a portion of the city-owned maintaining wall to construct a concrete driveway ramp with transition slo
this is the monday, december 10, 2012 meeting of the land development committee of the san francisco board of supervisors. it's our last meeting of the year. my name is eric mar, chairman of the committee, our clerk is miss alisa miller. miss miller, are there announcements for us? >> please make sure to silence all cell phones and electronic devices. items acted upon today will appear on the january 15th board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. >> thank you, i'd like to...
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in san francisco, carolyn tyler abc 7 news. >>> well if you think parking rates are steep in san francisco, they are even fwhors chicago. starting january 1st it will cost 6.50 an hour to park at these downtown meters. that's hike of 75 cents an hour or 11 and a half percent. rates have doubled since 2008. put chicago ahead of san francisco as the most expensive place to park anywhere in the country. so always someplace else. expense i have to park in chicago and very, very cold as well. >>> lisa is in for spencer tonight. what a nice day toda today. >> beautiful. but you know it can't last. will it interrupt the little dry spell but bring it back. in fact very interesting 7 day outlook to show you but right now start out with the beautiful shot of the city you can see everything lit up and sky were his clear for most of the evening but now we look at partly cloudy conditions. certainly cooler this evening than it was last evening but with a little bit of cloud cover don't think we see the frogs ty conditions. live doppler 7 hd showing the cloud cover off the coast and us a little bit but
in san francisco, carolyn tyler abc 7 news. >>> well if you think parking rates are steep in san francisco, they are even fwhors chicago. starting january 1st it will cost 6.50 an hour to park at these downtown meters. that's hike of 75 cents an hour or 11 and a half percent. rates have doubled since 2008. put chicago ahead of san francisco as the most expensive place to park anywhere in the country. so always someplace else. expense i have to park in chicago and very, very cold as...
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for four years here in san francisco. i'm here to address the central subway construction option of north beach * . our last meeting was november 19th, which has been mentioned, when we finally had representatives of the mta present what they plan to do, and nobody in north beach had heard or agreed with any of it. so, i mentioned at that meeting that i have never missed a vote. i've been in this city for 45 years, but i couldn't remember having voted on this project. i was informed correctly that the taxpayers voted for the subway in the late 1990s for a $6 47 million expense, which is now $1.58 billion, with a b. the whole project is too little too late. and the mta has made cost cuts, but prices continue to rise. as required by the federal law, the city of san francisco must pay for all overruns on this project. i ask the mta board what are your latest project costs? and how can we continue this new project when our present and regular equipment are continually breaking down,
for four years here in san francisco. i'm here to address the central subway construction option of north beach * . our last meeting was november 19th, which has been mentioned, when we finally had representatives of the mta present what they plan to do, and nobody in north beach had heard or agreed with any of it. so, i mentioned at that meeting that i have never missed a vote. i've been in this city for 45 years, but i couldn't remember having voted on this project. i was informed correctly...
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look for a high of 51 in san francisco and san mateo. so fairly uniform all around the bay area. 50 to 52 degrees. look for low 50s as well around monterey bay, up to 53 in monterey and 51 in gilroy and hollister. a couple things to look out for. if you are heading up to tahoe, there is a winter weather advisory. it's on the nevada side of lake tahoe. that's until 10:00 this morning but there are some snow showers falling right now as you head up toward truckee. one to three inches of snow expected. this afternoon there could be an isolated snow shower. i-80 and highway 50 right now no chain requirements but think could pop up. around the state look for a high of 28 tahoe, 39 yosemite. rain chances in southern california, 60 the high in los angeles and 58 in palm springs. check out the accuweather even day forecast. a very nice change. in fact, more sunshine. just get ready for the chilly temperatures overnight into monday morning and tuesday morning. we are only tracking a slight chance of rain on thursday. we will keep you updated on t
look for a high of 51 in san francisco and san mateo. so fairly uniform all around the bay area. 50 to 52 degrees. look for low 50s as well around monterey bay, up to 53 in monterey and 51 in gilroy and hollister. a couple things to look out for. if you are heading up to tahoe, there is a winter weather advisory. it's on the nevada side of lake tahoe. that's until 10:00 this morning but there are some snow showers falling right now as you head up toward truckee. one to three inches of snow...
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for four years here in san francisco. i'm here to address the central subway construction option of north beach * . our last meeting was november 19th, which has been mentioned, when we finally had representatives of the mta present what they plan to do, and nobody in north beach had heard or agreed with any of it. so, i mentioned at that meeting that i have never missed a vote. i've been in this city for 45 years, but i couldn't remember having voted on this project. i was informed correctly that the taxpayers voted for the subway in the late 1990s for a $6 47 million expense, which is now $1.58 billion, with a b. the whole project is too little too late.
for four years here in san francisco. i'm here to address the central subway construction option of north beach * . our last meeting was november 19th, which has been mentioned, when we finally had representatives of the mta present what they plan to do, and nobody in north beach had heard or agreed with any of it. so, i mentioned at that meeting that i have never missed a vote. i've been in this city for 45 years, but i couldn't remember having voted on this project. i was informed correctly...
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san francisco 54. your afternoon highs will not see the temperatures but by much expect upper 50s to the north bay some of our inland east bay valleys. 62 for concord and haywood. 68 for half moon bay. satellite and radar shows much a sagging its way south a cold front relatively slow- moving. we do have a lot of cloud cover associated with it. it looks like rain will start to develop as early as afternoon. we do see rain for clover dale again it is sticking to our north. it will not hit santa rosa the bottle or peddle until later today. futurecast 4 a set of 4:03 p.m.--novato and petaluma. rain will pick up in intensity while most of a sleeping. 9:00 a.m. tomorrow morning the yellow on your screen indicates heavy rain in sight showers around downtown san francisco. the showers will continue to pass through as we head into tomorrow afternoon. your kron 4 7 day around the bay forecast shows dry weather begins again on thursday in overall mild conditions as we transition into the weekend. 516 a in that i
san francisco 54. your afternoon highs will not see the temperatures but by much expect upper 50s to the north bay some of our inland east bay valleys. 62 for concord and haywood. 68 for half moon bay. satellite and radar shows much a sagging its way south a cold front relatively slow- moving. we do have a lot of cloud cover associated with it. it looks like rain will start to develop as early as afternoon. we do see rain for clover dale again it is sticking to our north. it will not hit santa...
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. >>> and to the latest on san francisco muni. it's back up and running after a transformer problem shut down everything for hours. ktvu aalex savidge live at the -- ktvu's alex savidge is live at the van ness station. what do you know? >> reporter: well, right here on market street, i did an interview with the mta spokesperson, he came out here and updated the situation. he says computers who use subway systems can expect a smooth right. all of the issues has been resolved. he tells me all of their trains are running on their regular schedules. let me show you the scene inside the van ness station. all of the trains again moving this morning. there was a shutdown, though, last night. it was about 6:00 when the entire subway system stopped because of a blown transformer at the van ness station. crews had to work throughout the night to fix the problem. and then finally at 1:30 this morning, they had everybody up and running again. with all of the subways out of service. you can imagine it was a major hassle for tens of thousands o
. >>> and to the latest on san francisco muni. it's back up and running after a transformer problem shut down everything for hours. ktvu aalex savidge live at the -- ktvu's alex savidge is live at the van ness station. what do you know? >> reporter: well, right here on market street, i did an interview with the mta spokesperson, he came out here and updated the situation. he says computers who use subway systems can expect a smooth right. all of the issues has been resolved. he...
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california, and till you're able to get some of the two major areas, san francisco to l.a., you're only talking about the central valley. i think that's a proposition unless there's a guaranteed availability payments that are mentioned before. then no one would be willing to take that risk because there's a history of large traffic between bakersfield and fresno. >> but at some point you're still going to connect by the california plan on san francisco to l.a. year $68 billion project, and you've got a much larger investment between state and federal dollars. why wouldn't that be less risk, and less a huge question of ridership between the two corridors. >> i think maybe all goes to the faces. it's hard to say which is better if both of them were built tomorrow and they were done, i think it would both actually in the u.s., both very interesting and potentially very viable project. i think it's just, it's difficult to be able to convince the private sector that the timeline is going to be with any reason the amount of time. most of these funds have been raised to try to be invested over
california, and till you're able to get some of the two major areas, san francisco to l.a., you're only talking about the central valley. i think that's a proposition unless there's a guaranteed availability payments that are mentioned before. then no one would be willing to take that risk because there's a history of large traffic between bakersfield and fresno. >> but at some point you're still going to connect by the california plan on san francisco to l.a. year $68 billion project,...
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these things, how the system works, to participate, one of the things we should do when i grew up in san francisco was we would have a day called using government day, and i would, everybody in the class would get to go down and sort of shadowed a member of the board of supervisors of the mayor or the city attorney are somebody and see what his job was like. and what a good thing that was. i remember that. and one of the reasons, architecture that i was in china, but one of the things i thought was great in architecture is in australia, they have changed now, but they built a parliament. and this parliament, whatever architecture reason, it goes up like this. it's huge, and the building goes down almost to the ground and it's covered with grass, the whole ceiling. so what the children, would come in droves in the buses and they would go to the top and they would go down like that. and i thought what a good idea. the association in their mind will be this democratic government of australia, and it has a place where i can go and roll downhill, so they'll have a positive association and it
these things, how the system works, to participate, one of the things we should do when i grew up in san francisco was we would have a day called using government day, and i would, everybody in the class would get to go down and sort of shadowed a member of the board of supervisors of the mayor or the city attorney are somebody and see what his job was like. and what a good thing that was. i remember that. and one of the reasons, architecture that i was in china, but one of the things i thought...